There’s a guy called BowTiedOlive on X who I’ve interacted with a few times now. He is the person behind Oliva Dorado, a company that claims to sell premium olive oil.
It started last year where he started insulting me out of nowhere:
The guy starts calling me a clown and insulting me out of nowhere. So needless to say I do not like this person.
Normally I am not one to pick fights and leave people negative reviews (as all the regular readers already know) but if you’re going to insult me out of nowhere, I am going to remember it.
Most people are imbeciles and it’s only a matter of time till they slip, and when you do, I’m going to catch you, and I’m going to nuke your entire credibility and end your brand in 1 minute.
BowTiedOlive Slipped. The entire conversation is below for you to read.
First, BowTiedOlive claims that olive oil is the best cooking fat available. This is actually false. The best cooking fats are ghee and coconut oil.
We can forgive him for this since he is an olive oil seller and it’s natural to want to push your product even though personally I think lying about the features of your product to sell it is highly unethical.
I point out that the vast majority of olive oil on the market is fake (something that is well documented) and that people should use ghee instead.
In response, BowTiedOlive sleazily tries to sell his product as a reply to my tweet with a “problem solved”.
I will get to his “lab testing report” in a bit but immediately notice the problem with the product – a half liter bottle of olive oil from him costs $50 (plus $50 in shipping, but that’s not his fault since I entered an Indian pin code).
Ghee – a product superior to olive oil – costs $6 a kilo. So about $3 for a half liter of ghee. I point this out to him.
He’s selling an inferior product while charging 30 times as much and claiming it’s the “best cooking fat available”. Not a good look.
If he was smart he’d just ignore it and hope that fewer people see my tweet, but he’s not smart, so he deliberately misreads what I said and claims I am not “fun at parties” (whatever that means).
He said I said that there’s no real olive oil on the market. I tell him that I didn’t say that, I actually said that most olive oil on the market is fake. It was a deliberate attempt by him to make me sound ridiculous and it failed.
I again make it clear that it makes no sense for the average person to spend $50 on a half liter bottle of olive oil when you can get Ghee, a better product, for literally $3.
He then changes his tone from mocking me for not being “fun at parties” and says olive oil is expensive because of production costs. This is true.
But then he says “Ghee and extra virgin olive oil are two completely different products”.
This is such a fictitious response. This is like saying coca cola and pepsi are two completely different products.
Sure, they are “different products” but people use them for the same things. They are in the SAME CATEGORY.
You are literally asking people to cook in olive oil, which puts it in the SAME CATEGORY as any other cooking fat. Of course you can compare them.
He then indirectly claims that people eat olive oil for “oleocanthal, oleuropein, the neuroprotective benefits of olive oil, the anti-aging effects of olive oil, etc” that you couldn’t get from Ghee.
This is nonsensical. Ghee is actually better for anti-aging because it’s SATURATED FAT. It will help raise your testosterone level. Who feels younger – someone with high testosterone or someone with low testosterone?
But this logic is lost on him since he is financially invested in selling olive oil.
You cannot convince someone of something when their income depends on not being convinced by you.
He then tries to change his tone again to get some sympathy. He says he’s only in olive oil out of pure interest and tries to weasel out of the situation.
Too bad that he was insulting me earlier calling me a clown for wearing sunscreen – completely unprovoked, so I’m not going to let this go. We are going to get this imbecile.
I call him out for telling the average person not just to buy $50 bottles of half liter olive oil, but to also cook in it. This is something the average person cannot afford so of course they will just buy olive oil from a supermarket – which is going to be fake because most olive oil is fake – and end up eating canola oil.
And he’s asking people to do this when ghee – a superior product – is available at literally 5% of the cost of his olive oil. You can buy 15 kilograms of ghee for the price of his half liter bottle of olive oil.
BowTiedOlive then massively lies and says that he’s never asked the average person to cook in olive oil.
I say this is a massive lie because he has literally asked people to cook in olive oil in many past tweets.
I literally screenshot one of them and show it to him.
In that tweet from last year, he was literally not only asking people to cook in olive oil, but also claiming that if they cook tomatoes in olive oil they will have an “internal sunscreen”.
Remember the first time he called me a clown? It on a tweet for using sunscreen when I was trekking for 5 days at 16,000 feet.
Yeah BowTiedOlive, if only I just would have JUST EATEN TOMATOES COOKED IN YOUR $50 OLIVE OIL INSTEAD OF USING SUNSCREEN. That would have saved my skin for sure.
Of course there is no coming back from this (he literally got caught lying) so he just deflects it with some emojis and says “enjoy your day”.
We’re not going to let him weasel out of this situation, I push further:
He ignores my reply for a while, but then as a few people started liking it, he says “that’s not what happened”.
We have come to a point where you can literally show someone a screenshot of what they said and they’ll say “I never said that”.
He then goes on to say his olive oil is “third party tested” and that his customers would have realized it by now if his product was fake.
The thing is that people CANNOT tell fake olive oil from real olive oil. Olive oil adulteration is very sophisticated and it’s very hard to tell a fake from a real. This is something I even detail in my piece on olive oil.
His “thousands of customers” cannot tell real or fake by tasting his olive oil just like you cannot tell if the olive oil you buy in the supermarket is fake or not by tasting it.
He knows this. He is in the business of olive oil.
BowTiedOlive got caught lying and then tried to weasel himself out of the situation. He says we should trust his product despite him provably having bad character because he has a “lab certification”.
Let us examine the lab certification of BowTiedOlive’s Oliva Dorado.
First of all, the lab certification does not pass the sniff test.
The third part lab report itself says that the 1 sample BowTiedOlive sent them was “third party tested and certified”.
This does not make any sense. Why does his third party reviewer saying that another third party tested his product and not them?
Who is that third party do did the actual test and why is their name not disclosed?
Where is the main report? BowTiedOlive’s Oliva Dorado does not provide it.
Instead what he gives us is a “sensory evaluation”.
“A panel of at least 8 olive oil tasters – each having a minimum of 3 years of experience – is used to evaluate the
oils”
It’s a TASTE report. His “lab test” is a report that says the olive oil TASTES right.
What the hell is this? He’s making it seem like his lab report is a legitimate chemical analysis of his product that proves that it’s the real thing.
In reality it’s a group of 8 guys with “minimum 3 years of experience” who just taste his olive oil and score it on the basis of TASTE.
The report is approved and signed by a “Olive Oil Taste Panel Leader”.
In the meantime the report says the sample was tested by a third party. Who is that third party and where is that report?
Will BowTiedOlive ever tell us or will he just be silent and hope no one finds this post?
On the authenticity of lab reports in general – they cannot be trusted if supplied by the brand itself!!!
This should be so obvious if only the average IQ of the human race was higher than 100.
If a company is providing you with a lab certification based on a sample, what are the chances that they send a genuine product for the test?
The chances are 100% because of course you would send a genuine product to get a lab test for your own company.
This doesn’t mean that the product you sell to customers is real.
Some whey protein manufacturers were caught pulling this scam for years and years. They would send 1 legit batch for testing every few months and get a lab report on their website.
The product they would ship to real customers was not genuine. It was adulterated.
You cannot trust a lab test report supplied to you by a brand that’s about their own product.
It makes no sense. A lab test report only has value if it was done by a customer who purchased the product from a regular sales channel like any normal customer would.
For example, in India, a company called Trustified does literally this. They buy products from brands as customers and then lab test them.
Their lab tests are actually meaningful.
BowTiedOlive’s lab tests mean nothing. He got the test done by himself. Of course the sample he sent was genuine. It doesn’t mean the product he’s actually shipping is also genuine.
His claim that his “thousands of customers would have noticed” does not make his product legit. It only means that he’s potentially cheated thousands of people.
In summary, can Bow Tied Olive and Oliva Dorado be trusted?
No!!!
– He will literally lie when it’s convenient to him.
– He will pretend he never said something even when there’s a literal screenshot of him saying it.
– His “lab report” is 8 guys with “minimum 3 years of experience” tasting his oil. It is literally a TASTE PANEL.
– His third party lab report says a different third party tested and certified his product as 100% extra virgin olive oil. That report from that other third party is not available on his website.
– Moreover, lab test reports done by the seller are literally useless. Of course the seller sends a genuine sample to the lab. Why wouldn’t he? This does not mean the products he actually ships to consumers are real.
– In conclusion, we have no way to know whether his $50 olive oil product is authentic or not. The olive oil from Oliva Dorado can potentially be fake.
– All we can tell is that BowTiedOlive will clearly lie when it suits him, and will claim he didn’t say something when there are literal screenshots of him saying it.
– He also claims that if you eat tomatoes cooked in his olive oil, it will give you an “internal sunscreen”.
In other words, he does not SEEM trustworthy (at least to me). Why would you buy a $50 ultra premium product from someone who seems shady?
BowTiedOlive founder of Oliva Dorado has been caught lying and cannot be trusted.
More importantly, he’s selling olive oil at $50 for a half liter bottle when you can buy much better products like ghee for literally less than 1/10th the price.
Why would you even buy his olive oil?
It doesn’t make any sense.
